Some individual people I miss ( especially the girlies ), but the stifling over bearing BS religion not the least.
There was too much orchestrated bullshit happening down at the Kingdom Hall......for me at least
Some individual people I miss ( especially the girlies ), but the stifling over bearing BS religion not the least.
There was too much orchestrated bullshit happening down at the Kingdom Hall......for me at least
i left the jws three years ago after having done extensive research through the internet where fortunately one can find an enormous amount of information regarding every aspect of the jws it's simply amazing how many websites there are exposing their real nature.
though in the end i don't blame so much the rank and file members who are themselves naive and ignorant victims, rather i blame those governing this organisation who are constantly and ruthlessly deceiving and holding captive in a spiritual sense their hapless followers.. i had several issues with them:.
the blood ban goes too much against common sense why would it be wrong to accept blood from someone that willing gives it and without any coercion or harm to himself precisely out of good kindness with the intention to save lives as indeed millions of lives were saved in this way.
Thankfully for the inter-net , JWS are starting to do some of their own research on the WTS. and they are finding out things that they were
never aware of, most notably that it was devised and orchestrated by devious men wanting and seeking power, power which they created for themselves,
power which they held on to....... religiously.
" The Truth " does good for the soul
i left the jws three years ago after having done extensive research through the internet where fortunately one can find an enormous amount of information regarding every aspect of the jws it's simply amazing how many websites there are exposing their real nature.
though in the end i don't blame so much the rank and file members who are themselves naive and ignorant victims, rather i blame those governing this organisation who are constantly and ruthlessly deceiving and holding captive in a spiritual sense their hapless followers.. i had several issues with them:.
the blood ban goes too much against common sense why would it be wrong to accept blood from someone that willing gives it and without any coercion or harm to himself precisely out of good kindness with the intention to save lives as indeed millions of lives were saved in this way.
Welcome to the forum Thunderinus and nicely written introductory post .
The WTS started illicitly devised and corrupt and it has continued in this form for decades.
Power in the hands of the ignorant and corrupt is never a good thing
there's a lot.. one rule that is dumb is that a brother must wear a suit for a sunday public talk that he is giving.
any other time, the brother could wear a suit coat with a different pair of pants and not be counseled for it.. another dumb idea is that you cannot date a person unless you seriously might marry them.
if you're on a date, you were supposed to always have a chaperone and holding hands might not be allowed as well as sitting together.. what other dumb rules and ideas can you add?.
Not allowed to apply critical thinking skills to analise WTS. doctrines, no matter how inaccurate
or inappropriate. The master always has complete control over his sheep.
greetings, fellow pc:.
i just finished defragging and feel so much zippier now.
i was getting sluggish to the point that all my insides locked up.
Defragging your hard drive will be a thing of the past as Solid State drives become the dominant choice in Data storage and transfer.
I have one now operating as my main storage drive and I think they're just great.
i guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.
my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.
It sounds like your going for something better in your life in a positive direction.
You've known for a long time that your marriage wasn't a happy and fulfilling one and that there was an apparent
disassociation in your relationship with your wife, which was hard to endure. It's always sad to hear of a marriage dissolving
away, but there is light after the darkness that your heading to. Keep a positive attitude and a strong mind in your resolve to improve you life
and that will help to carry you through this difficult time.........take care
when i first got on this site, i would bristle at the thought that i ever belonged to a cult.. do you believe that witnesses are truly "cultists"?.
Love bombing is the deliberate show of affection or friendship by an individual or a group of people toward another individual. Critics have asserted that this action may be motivated in part by the desire to recruit, convert or otherwise influence .
As of 2005, the phrase can be used in two slightly different ways.
The term was used within, and is often associated with, the Unification Church , especially the San Francisco Bay area church known as the "Oakland family." In 1999 testimony to the Maryland Cult Task Force, Ronald Loomis, Director of Education for the International Cultic Studies Association , reflecting his belief that the term was not invented by critics, asserted: "We did not make up this term. The term 'love bombing' originated with the Unification Church, the Moonies . It’s their term. Another group that’s active on many Maryland campuses, the International Churches of Christ , also uses that term." [1]
Though the term was already widely used by the media at the time, the Unification Church used it at least as early as 1978. Sun Myung Moon , founder of the Unification Church, used the term "love bomb" in a July 23, 1978 speech (translated):
"Unification Church members are smiling all of the time, even at four in the morning. The man who is full of love must live that way. When you go out witnessing you can caress the wall and say that it can expect you to witness well and be smiling when you return. What face could better represent love than a smiling face? This is why we talk about love bomb; Moonies have that kind of happy problem." [2]
Former members of the Children of God , including Deborah Davis , daughter of the founder of the Children of God, [3] and Kristina Jones , daughter of an early member, [4] have used the term in describing the early days of the organization.
when i first got on this site, i would bristle at the thought that i ever belonged to a cult.. do you believe that witnesses are truly "cultists"?.
Studies performed by those who believe that some religious groups do practice mind control have identified a number of key steps in coercive persuasion:
People are put in physically or emotionally distressing situations; ......( Armageddon is immediately coming )
Their problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly emphasized; ...... ( Satan is controlling this system of things )
They receive unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a charismatic leader; ........( close and personal love from the brothers and sisters and overseers )
They get a new identity based on the group; ....... ( Brother so and so and Sister so and so, a formation of a family together in unison )
They are subject to entrapment (isolation from friends, relatives, and the mainstream culture) and their access to information is severely controlled
( Must only keep close associations with members and avoid or restrain making relationships who are not. )
( disfellowship or shun individuals, even immediate family members, that criticize the leadership and their established doctrines )
( Only clean and righteous direction comes from the leadership, all other spiritual guidance from other sources is false and evil )
Yes the WTS does have cultish attributes when you analise the organization and how they operate themselves.
within a year or so, the internet will be 'opened up' to allow users to create full web and e-mail-addresses using non-latin characters.
the critical examination and companionships we have enjoyed for the past 15 years will become easily available to nationals in their own language.. imagine if the internet had been created and developed in chinese or urdu - how much use would that have been to you?
soon, our lovely apostate friends around the world will be spreading the news in their own language!.
Sounds like the new system of things is starting to take place
i have been thinking about this alot recently.
calling our god the creator by his first name jehovah takes alot of nerve.
my 10 year oll son doesnt walk around calling me by my first name.
When I pray I say " Dear Almighty and Eternal Dude " instead of Jehovah